Originally Posted by Hawaii50

I think the point most people are trying to make is that pay rates are going to be the same across UAL, AA, DL etc. within a few percent always. If we throw profit sharing into pay rates now next contract they'll look at us and completely forget we gave up profit sharing and compare our rates to our so called peers. You don't agree? For example are we now allowed much higher pay rates than UAL because we rolled profit sharing into pay in 2012? You may say they patterned of our rates, which included 2012 profit sharing rolled in, to get their current rates. That's possible but AA hasn't had profit sharing until recently but has relatively the same pay rates as we do.