Do you also include the historical "facts" in your decision which caused the delays for our current pilots over the past 15 years, things like 9/11, around a decade of furloughs and zero hiring at AA. Flowbacks from AA to Eagle, The economy tanking, the mandatory retirement age 60 changed to age 65, AMR filing Bankruptcy, Furloughs, the Merger with USair which led to our shrinkage? These things are what CAUSED the long upgrade/flow numbers to be inflated for "current" long term pilots that happened to be here throughout all those downturn years and were hired 5-15 years ago.

Unless you plan on the Major airline hiring to totally collapse all over again in the next 5-8 years, the current high upgrade/flow numbers some of us have endured over the past decade mean NOTHING to a new hire starting today in a totally different environment with massive retirements cranking up.