So here is the rub, if ALPA fails miserably again and we vote on a ridiculously poor TA, and then we get to complain and vote in a new mec, get a new mec chairman and start over again...what is that they say about the definition of insanity. If ALPA cannot get it right in todays environment why in the world would we stick with a 50 million dollar a year mistake. How many times do we need to be beat down before we go shopping for better representation. I'm not sure if its fear, collective lack of give a crap, laziness or the perception there is nothing better. I for one am tired of the pilot group getting beat down!