Originally Posted by Seaslap8

I suppose you will have to better define how the pilot group is getting "beat down"...the current company table offer is said to be valued at +/- $700M per year improvement....of course there will be debates as to dollar value and how it stacks up against the SWA TA and AMR and UAL contracts...but by most accounts (at least those sober accounts that will have an adjudicating function on whether or not we will ever be released to self help) it is viewed to be at or near industry leading.