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Old 09-20-2016, 08:45 PM
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OpenClimb
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Originally Posted by Hou757 View Post
Please post highlights? Pay rate proposals?
I'll post a few of the proposed terms. I think these folks need to be publicly shamed and I hope potential new hires will consider the company's proposal when deciding to spend hundreds of dollars on some BS job fair.

1. Eliminate all rig pay
2. Reduce minimum guarantee to 70 hours (from 75)
3. Reduce training pay to 3 hours/day (from 4)
4. 50% of reserve pilot days off are moveable by the Company
5. Eliminate ability for reserve to swap days
6. Company unilaterally picks hotels without Union input
7. Vacation pay is worth 3 hours per day
8. Max of 4 hours for a sick day instead of whatever trip is covered. (We accrue and use sick DAYS, not hours--currently accrue 1 day per month)
9. If not available to fly for the entire bid month, you'd be placed on reserve
10. No more premium pay (125%) for credits above 82 in a bid period
11. Drops/swaps buffers entirely at company's discretion
12. Eliminate contractual rest and duty limitations--Schedule to FARs
13. Eliminate monthly open time
14. Zero pay for deadheading
15. Legs paid by company-determined "segment time" instead of current block or better.

Creation of 2 different pay rates… New rate (20% higher than our current concessionary rates) for actual flight time. Our current hourly rate for all other "non-flown" credit hours. These non-flown hours would include training, vacation, sick, difference between flown hours and guarantee hours for reserves, etc.

14 year CA pay at DOS: $192.25 ($160.21 for "non-flown" credits)
14 year CA pay at 24 mos.: $224.29 *** ($160.21 for "non-flown" credits)

14 year FO pay at DOS: $15.36 ($96.13 for "non-flown" credits)
14 year FO pay at 24 mos.: $134.58 *** ($96.13 for "non-flown" credits)

*** But this 24mos. rate is dependent on the company achieving efficiency gains based on the revised work rules. If these gains are not achieved, then the $192.25 stays in effect for the life of the contract.

There are a few other little gems, but it'd take a ridiculously long post to explain them fully. In all honestly, I've already given this proposal more airtime than it deserves, but I think it's important for potential new hires to see what we're dealing with.

It's as if a group of Frontier management met at a bar Sunday night after the Bronco's game and decided to assemble the worst provisions from any contract they could find. The least drunk in the group was assigned duties as scribe and the least hungover from the group presented the amalgamation to ALPA on Monday morning.

The good news is that it should be painfully obvious to the NMB that the Company is not negotiating in good faith.

Last edited by OpenClimb; 09-20-2016 at 09:17 PM. Reason: Added FO rates
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