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Old 09-21-2016 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bendover89301
This proves that they have no desire to actually negotiate an actual contract with the pilot group. It is designed to elicit an emotional response from us. The operation is coming down all around them, and they are trying to push this on the pilots.

Keep those apps updated and get out as soon as you can. If you are trying to come here, Don't! You don't want any part of this Sh!t show.

jesus christo!!!

you guys are as emotional as a 14 year old girl getting her first period.

i have not posted here in a long time. i do look here occasionally and today the posts just make me want to shake my head.

first of all, no one in management is stupid enough to believe that any of us would settle for a single one of their chintzy proposals. this is a negotiation for christ's sake. don't ever forget that. we start high, they start low. they hope we will meet somewhere in the middle. they proposals they submitted are b.s. they know it as well as we do. they are simply an attempting to stall and show the mediation board that they are "negotiating".

what we need to do in lieu of this is resubmit our proposals to 10-15% greater across the board in EVERY category compared to the best contract of any other airline in the usa flying a similar fleet type. SWA just got a better contract. our reasoning for doing so is due to changing market conditions. every time another airline gets a better contract and we are still in negations, we resubmit a new proposal as stated above.

telling pilots not to come here because you are unhappy is just f-ing stupid! if you could see the forest through the trees, you would encourage good pilots to come here with the expectation that they will stand with us and help make this company better in the near future.

telling other pilots not to come here accomplishes nothing.

i came here from a long tenure as a captain at a regional. i knew what the pay was but i chose to come here anyway for several reasons: 1)faster upgrade time than any legacy 2) mostly better work rules than any regional in the usa. 3) generally great camaraderie with the crews i fly with. everyone that i have encountered at this company-with very few exceptions-has gone far out of their way to make me feel like i am a part of a family here. you won't get that at a legacy. 4) the regional airline industry is stagnant and likely has no future. 5) i know that in a couple years, this is going to be a really great place to work. i am willing to stand firm with my brethren. i will vote to strike if that is what needs to be done. i promise you that these dorks will cave like a house of cards and give us everything we ask for if we get to the point of a strike. why? because all they care about is making money and milking the cash cow. if we can inhibit their ability to make money, they will do what ever they need to in order to keep it flowing in.

you guys drive me crazy by reacting exactly the way they want you to. stop making this emotional. i promise you that it isn't emotional for them. all they care about is the cash. we have the ability to make this company exactly what we want it to be.

stop whining and figure out something you can do to help all of us accomplish this goal. every one of us needs to find a way to put pressure on them in one way or another.

jesus!

sorry for the rant! carry on with your whining.
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