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Red/green? Most regionals have similar. Trip rig? Guarante day? Ours blows. Trip integrity. Had it. What possible rule is amazing here? MUP? JM? Only for a few people is this even an issue.
Lots of guys over look the pay because of "amazing" work rules only to come here and find they aren't any better. We owe it to them to really be honest.
Training department (not the instructors but the leadership) runs the schedule too tight. It's a jeopardizing risk you run. Worse than most regionals. Captain authority here is a joke. Gate agents control the process of boarding and our union is as passive about this as everything else.
Training pay is unbelievably below standards. Taking home $1000-1500 for entire training is shameful. Again union won't spend negotiation capital for new guys.
If all you know are turbo prop or fly by night cargo then yes, NK rules are fine. But they are industry average. They aren't equal to UA or DL and certainly not enough to ignore the pathetic pay.
But if you think you won't get a call from a legacy then you're better off coming here and sucking it up and hoping we get a contract.
Originally Posted by Gunga Din
What work rule is better? 4 days off. It's good and bad. But okay. It forces them to give you blocks of day home. But that also makes for 6 day blocks away. Red/green? Most regionals have similar. Trip rig? Guarante day? Ours blows. Trip integrity. Had it. What possible rule is amazing here? MUP? JM? Only for a few people is this even an issue.
Lots of guys over look the pay because of "amazing" work rules only to come here and find they aren't any better. We owe it to them to really be honest.
Training department (not the instructors but the leadership) runs the schedule too tight. It's a jeopardizing risk you run. Worse than most regionals. Captain authority here is a joke. Gate agents control the process of boarding and our union is as passive about this as everything else.
Training pay is unbelievably below standards. Taking home $1000-1500 for entire training is shameful. Again union won't spend negotiation capital for new guys.
If all you know are turbo prop or fly by night cargo then yes, NK rules are fine. But they are industry average. They aren't equal to UA or DL and certainly not enough to ignore the pathetic pay.
But if you think you won't get a call from a legacy then you're better off coming here and sucking it up and hoping we get a contract.
You're correct, there is nothing outstanding in the Spirit contract, but it is better. The overall QOL however is much better.