Originally Posted by
toolowterrain
Since the same thing was posted in the regional side, I figured that I post my same response here. These are my thoughts as a captain myself.
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I (AWAC) pay annually for American nonrev benefits (very crappy ones at that) plus I have to pay an additional $1.58 per segment each time. When I list like this and ride on any American or American Eagle metal (operated by anyone) I do NOT ask for permission, unless I have to occupy the physical jumpseat in which I politely ASK if its ok. If I happen to see the crew I introduce myself as a non-rev (not jumpseater).
If I ride in ANY other non-American/ American Eagle carrier, I ask for permission with doccs in hand even if I am in the back. I am a guest and not entitled to it.
This is my belief and I see nothing wrong with it.....!?
The only problem I have EVER had was with a legacy American Captain that almost kicked me off. I listed as a non-rev but as a non-wholy owned we often get the same priority code as a offline jumpseater. I guess he saw me in the paperwork as a offline guy and asked the F/A to take me up front just prior to push. I explained that it was a technical issue but I was indeed a non-rev. I showed him the back of my id which says 'Operating as American Eagle '. He seemed ok with it but I am sure he placed me on the do not hire list
Wow that guy had a bug up his a$$!
Just one thing I try and point out to all of our non-wholly owned Eagle pilots, as a Jumpseat committee member: Remember, if you list as an AAC (cabin only) because you'd like cabin priority, you cannot switch it to FDJ, or have the agent append "FDJ" next to your AAC listing: reason being, if there is another OAL D6 listed on the same flight, you as an AAC-converted-to-FDJ now have gained unfair priority over him/her. That is a big no-no: as a D6, all priority is equal and is based on time of check in. I've seen it happen plenty. That is why you must choose either AAC or D6, but not both. Just a friendly reminder.
My suggestion is to always list as a D6...and that way it's a win-win: 1) if the flight is open, you get your cabin seat, and 2) if it fills up, you still get the Jumpseat. I'd forego the entire AAC process.
Regarding the original post - most FOMs require a jumpseater to check in with credentials up front, even with a seat in the back.