Those of you who believe we will see a pay raise are incredibly misguided. The implosion has already begun. JO had already stated in no uncertain terms that he will not pay pilots more money. There was a small caveate to his statement "unless he has to". He still doesn't have to. We are still completing flights and departing on time. Until those factors start to decline and we can't staff those flights then you'll see some movement towards improvements. Holiday flight schedules are going to be horrifying. And, I don't even want to know what the summer of 2017 will look like.