I am confused why the JV scope thing is such a big deal to people. 2% reduction is about 1 roundtrip flight. Staffing reduction couldn't be more than 10 pilots. Also this isn't even a reduction just a reallocation to other theatres. I can't imagine the company paid all that money for 350 sim unless they were actually going to take orders of the 350. I also don't think it's being aqcuired to fly domestically. It appears that people were expecting no wins for the company in this negotiation. A good deal means both parties get something. Again I understand people would like to go back to the pre 9/11 glory days of aviation where a whale captain was making 400 and hour with full pension but I believe those days are gone for good. If I thought for a second we could get back there just by negotiating more I would support a no vote. This TA is all about cost benefit for me. A yes vote takes the overall gain. Maybe not as much as we had hoped but more than we had.