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Old 10-13-2016 | 05:21 PM
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Sink r8
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Originally Posted by BtoA
Honestly, I do not see how we can do anything except agree to disagree. If you think that keeping our RJ scope is a loss, then we have nothing less to discuss. There have been so many people debunking how that is a win for us, and I agree with them. So, not an attack, if you think that would have been a win, I guess I can see how you would think this is a win (or neutral or whatever).

I disagree whole-heartedly, and I believe many people that think about it critically will agree with me. Giving away scope for a low block-hour 'guarantee' is not good for us. Those are our jobs.
That's fair. We definitely do disagree. And I'm guessing we both really sincerely think we're advocating the best thing for the Delta pilots.

Every year, we keep going further and further above the NB ratios set in C2012. By leaving NB Scope alone, we are also not moving our back-stops up behind our actual level of flying. You're going ballistic over lowering the allowance slightly on the WB end (although there is zero indication we're actually cutting back the flying, so zero job losses), and yet you're not seeing that we're leaving the current 88's and future C-Series backstopped by an increasingly large (and therefore useless) margin above the protected ratio, because we failed to reach a deal on the RJ's. You are literally not seeing the forest from the trees.

Seems to me you are equating Scope with winning, and growth, while people with a bit more experience view it as protection. I see: a) the WB Scope is acceptable but not phenomenal, and b) the NB Scope in this TA is a probable miss, but a popular miss. The reps wanted to make a stand on the RJ's, they got what they wanted, so who am I to complaint?

If something happens that kills demand, I've seen the movie before, and I have the feeling we're going to miss the increased ratios, and have many an occasion to despise those zombie 50-seaters. As they said in the Princess Bride, there's dead, and then there's mostly dead.

Sincerely,

Sink r8
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