Originally Posted by
vilcas
I am confused why the JV scope thing is such a big deal to people. 2% reduction is about 1 roundtrip flight. Staffing reduction couldn't be more than 10 pilots. Also this isn't even a reduction just a reallocation to other theatres. I can't imagine the company paid all that money for 350 sim unless they were actually going to take orders of the 350. I also don't think it's being aqcuired to fly domestically. It appears that people were expecting no wins for the company in this negotiation. A good deal means both parties get something. Again I understand people would like to go back to the pre 9/11 glory days of aviation where a whale captain was making 400 and hour with full pension but I believe those days are gone for good. If I thought for a second we could get back there just by negotiating more I would support a no vote. This TA is all about cost benefit for me. A yes vote takes the overall gain. Maybe not as much as we had hoped but more than we had.
If that's all it is, why not go up that one round trip? What's a round trip between friends? Why is our "half" always the bare minimum allowable by contract, and even then sometimes less? What is so special about AF/KLM that they always get to do more than the spirit and intent of what was originally agreed to?
I'm not talking about a softening market resulting in less demand. That is irrelevant. I'm talking about our share of whatever that amount ends up being. Half is 50%, not 48.5% and dam sure not 46.5% and you know they'll try to push lower for the next one
