Originally Posted by
hindsight2020
That's one of the interesting things I did witness about the narrative on here regarding G4. The second the pay issue got ameliorated, the entire safety narrative subsided. Get real. I had a buddy who passed on employment offer at G4 circa the strike threat time in '15, and the scuttlebutt in the squadron was very much a sense that going to work for Allegiant while waiting for DL/UA/AA/SW to call was gambling with your tickets, and that the mx practices were a big threat to the operation outright, regardless of pilot relations and negotiations.
Are we to believe the mx practices and corporate culture of an agency with ValueJet'esque carbon copy behavior (almost identical in forensics, right down to the above average profit yields up to the crash event) changed polarity overnight just because the pilots are now content to idle in place versus the grievances two years ago? I don't buy that for one second. I believe you guys are going to be the next ValueJet and it will be a catalyst for yet another 1500 rule type of populist outcry, which will challenge some of the hiring dynamics we are currently seeing. Ironically enough, probably going to affect the regionals more than the majors. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, I have no axe to grind against G4 from a pilot perspective (im not a regional guy, just a mil/civ hybrid), but from a safety practices standpoint G4 quacks like a duck, it's just a matter of time. Getting my hush money isn't enough for me to act like the mx discourse on this very forum circa 2014-2015 didn't happen. It's almost unbelievable how quickly the narrative changed on here. This place is an echo chamber.
My family doesn't fly G4 at any price. This isn't about fares, it's about an honest and educated assessment on the mx practices from an industry peer review POV. To each their own. When one of those paid-for maddogs fails to rotate again or the T-tail flies off, or a clapped out engine uncontains and kills a bunch of people, nobody on here can act like all of a sudden this is a surprise.
Please.
Isn't it easy to anonymously throw stones.
American and Southwest have been fined several million dollars for their maintenance practices in the past. I think Southwest holds the record for FAA fines. Allegiant just went through the ringer earlier than scheduled by the FAA, LOOKING for a reason to hang them, and came out fairly clean with only VERY MINOR discrepancies noted, which were immediately corrected internally and to the respective employee groups to fix. This is why the FAA exists. To correct the behavior when a company starts cutting corners.
I'm fairly new to the company and also never flew the -80, but in my experience on the line, Allegiant's mx has been top notch. Unlike other airlines I have worked for, not a single pilot or mechanic, mx control or anyone else has even insinuated on carrying a write-up or doing anything illegit. Any discrepancy has been written up and taken care of immediately and appropriately, and legally. It is unfair to say that the airline continues to be unsafe based on its past or what airline executives previously worked at. If that is the case, you should never step foot on a Southwest or an American airlines plane either then, because they have received more repercussions from the FAA than G4 has, and many G4 execs have moved onto other airlines such as United.