Originally Posted by
hindsight2020
That's one of the interesting things I did witness about the narrative on here regarding G4. The second the pay issue got ameliorated, the entire safety narrative subsided. Get real. I had a buddy who passed on employment offer at G4 circa the strike threat time in '15, and the scuttlebutt in the squadron was very much a sense that going to work for Allegiant while waiting for DL/UA/AA/SW to call was gambling with your tickets, and that the mx practices were a big threat to the operation outright, regardless of pilot relations and negotiations.
Are we to believe the mx practices and corporate culture of an agency with ValueJet'esque carbon copy behavior (almost identical in forensics, right down to the above average profit yields up to the crash event) changed polarity overnight just because the pilots are now content to idle in place versus the grievances two years ago? I don't buy that for one second. I believe you guys are going to be the next ValueJet and it will be a catalyst for yet another 1500 rule type of populist outcry, which will challenge some of the hiring dynamics we are currently seeing. Ironically enough, probably going to affect the regionals more than the majors. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, I have no axe to grind against G4 from a pilot perspective (im not a regional guy, just a mil/civ hybrid), but from a safety practices standpoint G4 quacks like a duck, it's just a matter of time. Getting my hush money isn't enough for me to act like the mx discourse on this very forum circa 2014-2015 didn't happen. It's almost unbelievable how quickly the narrative changed on here. This place is an echo chamber.
My family doesn't fly G4 at any price. This isn't about fares, it's about an honest and educated assessment on the mx practices from an industry peer review POV. To each their own. When one of those paid-for maddogs fails to rotate again or the T-tail flies off, or a clapped out engine uncontains and kills a bunch of people, nobody on here can act like all of a sudden this is a surprise.
How could you possibly know the details of MX practices at G4? Industry peer review POV? Does that mean surfing Google? If you have some meaningful and
original information, post it here! Honestly, I would like the same information you used to make your “educated” assessment.
Funny how the majority of media slander was during our most intense negotiating period. I was a regional captain and I can tell you that G4 MX is a MILLION times better than what I experienced at that place. I have witnessed the most ridiculous garbage come from the media with regards to Allegiant… Tampa Bay Times anyone? Title:
Another engine failure for Allegiant, Reality: compressor stall followed by low speed abort. Title:
Serious Allegiant Airlines safety issues revealed in FAA reports, Reality: FAA finds “minor non-systemic” issues during evaluation.
That being said, we have had some serious events. You are right; the series of engine failures/shutdowns and the elevator control tab in LAS (cotter pin not installed on a castellated nut by a non-allegiant mechanic… the same company and mechanics that service United, Virgin America, and others) are a blemish on our reputation. But I ask you this, what airline doesn’t have a blemish? Fuselage split open inflight followed by rapid decompression, uncontained engine failure, landing at the wrong airport, collapsing the nose wheel on landing, FAA fines for MX practices. Sounds like Allegiant, right? Nope, Southwest! An excellent company, that has blemishes, just like everybody else. (Disclaimer: in no way am I saying Allegiant is better than Southwest. Using America’s luv child airline as an example just helps my argument.)
So by your logic, your family shouldn’t be flying on Southwest. By your logic, it’s completely unimaginable that things can improve at G4. It will stay the same airline it was in 1999, flying casino charters from Fresno to Vegas. Give me a break. Every month I notice improvements including MX, training, training facilities, management changes, publications, communication and dissemination of info, retiring the 80’s, factory new airbus, and most importantly, individuals dedicated to improving this place… no, I’m not talking about Maury. He’s got to be 70 years old and nearing retirement… you think things might improve with him being gone? I think so.
Does this place have its issues? Oh hell yes! I’ll be the first to admit it. Does pencil whipping happen sometimes? Yes, and it ****es me off! And just because things have taken a more positive turn on this godforsaken website doesn’t imply that G4 is suddenly the best place for
everyone to be. We all know that’s crap. “Hey guys, someone said they were happy… BURN IT DOWN!” You look foolish peddling your old ideas with big words, peer reviews, and the like.