Originally Posted by Free Bird

Well, it's all about you isn't it.

Lets pretend that from one year to the next Delta were to do the same amount of flying with the same number of airplanes. Pass this TA and it will require fewer pilots to do the same amount of flying. I would love to see the math on this if I'm wrong.

You are stating it will cost jobs. It is not up to the other side to prove you wrong. Prove yourself right. That being said, you are probably right that it will cost some jobs although I will bet that it's fewer than you think when the whole TA is considered. And, IMO, with the how much hiring we are doing now and into the future, it's not going to be more than a one time blip on the radar screen.

Every contract since BK we have given productivity concessions. C2012 cost us something like 250 jobs, no idea on this one. Again, show me that this TA will not cost us jobs with VB, WB ALV increase etc.

Yes, those items will cost some jobs but there are also items like increased vacation and training pay that will offset those.

BTW, is the whole Princess thing necessary? You have no idea what I've been through. But I'm sure it makes you feel better so...........