Originally Posted by
whaledriver1
Typical response from a relatively senior 'Elliot' thinking 'pull up the ladder... I've got mine mentality'. The 'Yes' votes on this POS TA will be the senior pilots with only a few years remaining. Chasing the $$$ and could care less about every Delta pilots QOL... lowering the industry bar. No Vote.
I've been stunned - absolutely stunned - by the number of vehement no voters from the last TA (some who called me bad names for supporting the last TA

) who will be voting yes this time. They are more logical and much less dogmatic than I thought they were. Of course they are now being called bad names too much to their chagrin.
Is this TA Nirvana? No. But it's a not a small amount of money and I don't see any change in QOL. I mean, I really don't see any change in this job neutral TA that would cause someone to work more. In fact, you could work 30% less for the same pay - as has been repeated more than once. (But of course most people won't. Irony.)
As far as lowering the industry bar goes - American, Southwest and United sure seem to like our TA. American pilots want to join ALPA, SWA almost reopened negotiations, and United pilots want their January 1 pay raise.
And finally, I have not heard a logical argument, not one, from the no crowd of what their plan is if this TA is voted down. Go back for more is all I've heard. When? 2 years. Just one problem. We already are going back for more in 2 years even if we vote yes.