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Old 11-01-2016 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
It's a good question and no offense taken.

Commuters lose no seniority in commuting. They have made a voluntary choice to use their seniority to enable their commuting lifestyle. VB will remove trips from the bid package which somebody who hasn't bid a VB (both commuters and those who live in domicile) would have had access to.

Actually I think commuters do lose a lot as far as seniority is concerned. Generally a commuter wants to remain more senior in category so s/he has more choices. Hence they delay upgrade. This leads to a better QOL for the commuter but definitely a loss of potential income. Yes, it will remove trips but this will be done on a proportional basis of how many bid the VB in a specific base. There will also need to be some reserve coverage in the VB. This will remove pilots from category and not cause a loss of trips.

Example: Senior commuter lives in Dallas and uses their seniority to bid double commutable NYC trips. VB established in Tampa. All those late sign-in early sign-out trips that used to do NYC-TPA are now gone to a new hire who just happens to live in Florida and bid the TPA VB. How is that fair? That has most definitely abrogated the seniority system.
I don't think that abrogates seniority. IMO, seniority abrogation is when, considering the both pilots are in the same situation i.e. category, the junior pilot gets a trip, day off, vacation etc. that the senior pilot wanted. You are talking about two now separate categories in TPA and NYC.

I gotta say, I'm enjoying playing "devils advocate" with this thread. Thanks Mike!

Denny
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