Which is essentially what we laughed at from the company last winter. Time will tell sour. This is what teamsters has done for me. Unable to pressure the company dragging out Negoations for over 8 yrs. stopped negoations after the Midwest/frontier debacle. Allowed frontier to somehow keep FAPA still running after a vote. Did I mention 9 YEARS at the table! Alpa is light years ahead of teamsters and I have only been a member 2 yrs. teamsters is a joke.