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Old 11-04-2016 | 10:01 AM
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horrido27
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Originally Posted by Shrek
Pay banding is DOA - it needs to be squashed once and for all.
Why?
What would be wrong with 4 bands-
Small Narrow Body
Large Narrow Body
Small Wide Body
Large Wide Body

Then have a 4 engine override just like we have an International override?
And maybe a stretch override as they increase seating in current models?

Planes will always be moved around different bases/coasts. Proof is what is happening (again) to the 756 in EWR.
For many EWR based pilots, we will see a decrease in pay between 1grand and up to $3300 (for the top ten percent) in the coming months. All because the 76-4 is being moved to IAD and replaced with the 76-3.
[between $35-$50 difference in pay per hour]

Another example is the 74. It is slated to leave in 2017/2018 (unless things change..). To be replaced by the A350's and possible 777-3's. Had we done a separate pay rate for the whale, all those pilots would be seeing paycutes when they get displaced off the plane.

Pay banding CAN work if done correctly. Also note.. every airline has some sort of pay banding.. just a question of how many bands? Should it be 10 (like Delta, with 17 listed aircraft), or 4 (like American, with 14 listed aircraft), or 4 like we already have, here at United?.. with 13 types.

Should the 787-8 pay the same as a 787-10..? Or could it pay Small Wide Body pay vs. Large WideBody pay (with a possible stretch override?)

Good discussions to have. Guess it all comes down to -
Do we want a payscale with a small top end thereby honoring supreme seniority, or
Do we want the most possible pilots making the highest possible wages?

Always
Motch
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