Originally Posted by
UALinIAH
The 767-400 had NO business being banded up. It caused all the other WB pilots to get less pay. It was a product of JPOS and his attempt at gaming the SLI. Sorry no sympathy from most. You had an artificial payraise for a while. If you want full time WB pay, bid WB equipment. Otherwise it's just like SRM money. Enjoy when you get but never budget your life around it.
Interesting comments.
Coming from the LCal Side, the 76-4 was NOT pay banded up. It was pay banded to the 777 and 787 as a widebody.
The argument about JPOS is interesting. Have heard it numerous times and just don't agree. Keep in mind, before the merger we (LCAL) had already had a contract proposal that kept widebody aircraft paybanded.
But that is in the past.
Looking at today, we have the issue that the 76-3 is paying a few dollars more than a 75-2. It was brought up during the contract roadshows, that those aircraft [76-3] (along with the majority of the LUAL 75-2's) were leaving the fleet.
Guess what. They didn't and aren't.
To make matters worse, they are probably staying around for a while since we are doing Polaris upgrades to them!
I remember pilots saying they were voting YES for C12 because they had to stop LCal pilots from "stealing their upgrades". That the deal wasn't great, but we had to get to SLI and "will fix it next time".
Well, next time has come and gone as we did an extension till 2019.. and never fixed the 76-3 pay. [along with numerous other items not fixed]
Originally Posted by
UALinIAH
Sorry no sympathy from most. You had an artificial payraise for a while. If you want full time WB pay, bid WB equipment.
Interesting comment.. as most of the guys who will be taking the most hits are LUAL guys who either initially BAT'ed over (a nice product of the union) or bid in knowing they WOULD be flying 76-4.
Originally Posted by
UALinIAH
Enjoy ($) when you get but never budget your life around it.
True. I don't live paycheck to paycheck.. and hopefully most senior pilots don't anymore either.
But it doesn't change the fact that for a good amount of EWR 756 pilots (almost all from before the merger, ie Legacy Pilots), they are either going to take a paycut, or will lose the opportunity to make a little more.
Guess we can expect you to advocate raising the other widebodies at a higher percentage than the 76-4 in the survey.. what about the 787-8? Guess it also falls into the 76-4 category. How much of a raise should we give the 74's?
Motch