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Old 11-08-2016 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
So if you own the code as you claim, that would mean also you guys have control of how the regional contracts are negotiated? Who is going to ground handle, who pays for the fuel, gate use, on and on. And who from the pilot group is involved with contracts?
LOLwut?

We don't control who does the above or below wing stuff, but no one has ever claimed as much. The company can make whatever deal with whatever they want with non pilot functions. We control the code WRT pilots flying the code. That is the context that we control it, but its obvious you know that, and you know I know that, so its unclear of why you're popping chaff WRT this.

As far as regional contracts, we don't control what we don't control (gate, fuelers, ticket agents, etc) but we do control the code we fly as well as the code we allow to be outsourced. Once its permitted by us to be outsourced, then the company is free to pick who they want to do that portion of the code. Even then they are limited with restrictions. Aircraft size and weight, hub to hub and stage length parameters, etc. If we furlough, seats have to be taken out, and sometimes a massive bump and flush must occur to accommodate our pilots, subject to our CBA. Sometimes if permitted regionals go rogue and operate larger equipment than what we allow WRT our code, we must remove our code from them. It isn't just regionals either. We set terms on the Alaska code share agreement that the company must abide by. Same for international JV's. We have default language in place for any agreement, as well as specific language for existing JV's.

If you work for a regional, your PWA probably gives your pilot group control over your code as well. Some scope clauses are better than others of course.

But you're free to ignore all that and pretend its one giant free for all. You wouldn't be the first to think that. Some in the past have arrogantly thought they could just operate mainline sized equipment, even for DL! Bwahahahahaha! In any case, hopefully you're not that naive.

So as far as pilots go, which is all we care about and can control, its our code, we own it, and we allow exceptions for others to do limited and controlled amounts of it as we see fit. Sorry if that triggers you in any way, but if you want a safe space, you have to go to a place that flies its own code.
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