Yes, maybe Envoy from one year ago and before that, today they are turning around and AA is investing in them. I think we will have a hard time competing with Envoy in Chicago.... Lots of friends that I know have gone over there than us recently. Hell, I've thought of it too being low on the seniority list at ORD and still on first year pay.... I'm looking into if it's worth it or not.

If it weren't for us having so many western bases and drawing in applicants from there to staff DTW and ORD, we would be in a world of hurt right now.