Agreed. If Envoy had SAP, I'd be going there. As it stands, I'd rather forego the $$ and go to skywest or republic ahead of Envoy and the brutally bad schedules. You're locked in the same plane for 4 or 5 years (upgrade time), too, from what I understand. I live near ORD, but for some reason, I don't like the 145. I have something against lawn darts, I guess. CRJ is going away, so 145 is only game in town in ORD.