Originally Posted by
BeatNavy
Since we are talking about contract wish lists, etc., I hear a lot of people I talk to say the emb190 rates won't change much because we are already at the top of the industry with those rates. Here's some food for thought. The 20 us air e190s AA flies are getting parked, and it's a very tiny percentage of their pilots who fly them. They'll be gone in a few years anyway. No one else flies them in the US. Therefore, the argument that we are at the top of e190 pay in the industry is true, but that's a skewed/irrelevant fact...we will soon be the lowest paid 100 seat pilots once those are gone. Oh and the AA guys can bid off them almost right away...we can't.
Delta has e190s in their contract, but they are lumped with CRJ-900 (76 seater) rates, with none on property and no plans to get them. The cS100, only slightly bigger than a 190, of which DAL is getting 75+50 options, will be $120/hr for 2nd year FO, $167.59 for 12 year FO, and $223-$245 for CA. It's a $10/hour difference from their a320 rate. Their cs300 is only a few bucks off airbus rates. It shouldn't take our negotiating capital away to negotiate industry standard rates for e190s...I don't think it would take away from airbus rates. I get the argument that we have more airbii, there is no future of e190s, etc., but I think we are selling ourselves short by accepting current rates on the e190 moving forward. Discuss.
An impossible chore for negotiators to prove much of an increase without the company wanting something in exchange. Now if you can give the NMB(because that's where we will be soon) evidence that the rates aren't in line with our peers they will listen. It's just the fact is there isn't evidence to prove that.