With a few exceptions, most of the anti-alpa people on this board are actually pretty rational and ask some pretty valid questions. Personally I think you come off as a tad on fanatical side...you listed all sorts of fringe benefits which alpa has been involved in (most of which occurred BEFORE deregulation, when alpa didn't confront the kinds of economic problems it does today). Sure they did some great stuff 30, 40, 50 years ago, but what have you done for me lately?

This industry certainly lends itself to unions, and we could all be better served by a single national union (or a very strong, very unified coalition of unions). I am leaning towards voting for alpa at SKW mainly for that reason alone.

But there's a reason that there is so much discontent...maybe it's time that alpa national listen up and try to adjust their course (prater has made some of the right noises, time will tell on the results).