Originally Posted by
Duct Mon
The two posts above are rediculous and laughable. All regionals undercut everyone else but the pilots aren't engaged in that. Pilots have nothing to do with the CPA with mainline.
Most of the pilots have been at Mesa since the last contract was ratified during bankruptcy and a recession.
Don't make assumptions and post about things you have no idea about. The majority of pilots at Mesa deserve a better contract.
Posts like yours are what keep the whipsaw in this industry going strong. Your hate for Mesa shouldn't be directed at the pilots.
First, pilots are absolutely involved in the whipsaw game. By pilots chasing the quick upgrade and shiny jets in lieu of a decent contract and pay, they are directly enabling management, and giving their tacit approval of awful pay and contracts (you signed up did you?) especially when there have been vastly better options for the last 2-3 years.
As far as most pilots being at Mesa since pre-recession/bankruptcy, I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm willing to best it isn't the vast majority. Mesa has hired a ton of pilots in the last 3 years, all of whom made an active CHOICE to work for the industry's premier bottom feeder airline. There is absolutely no simpathy for those people.
Lastly, I don't think most other pilots "hate" Mesa, especially not their pilots. It's just really stupid too see people made a conscious decision to work for the lowest paying, bottom feeding regional despite having the option to go literally anywhere else, then turn around and complain they aren't paid enough and "deserve" more.
I once had a Mesa pilot tell me that I was stupid for going to the regional I'm currently at. Quote, "Have fun flying clapped out -200s that will be going away and having a 7 year upgrade" and that I should really go to Mesa instead for the Upgradezzzzz.
Well guess what? That was 2.5 years ago, and now that same regional has a fleet of over 100 175s and an upgrade of under 2 years. I say that not to brag or rub it anyone's faces, but to reinforce the idea, that choosing to work for a well managed, generally respected company usually pays off better than chasing gimics such as bonuses and "quick upgrades"