Originally Posted by grim04

Cleanest? How you figure sport? If you mean clean like swa ata or swap airtran. You start the integration at jb 2007 hire with a 5 to 1 after that then yeah. But anything else no way. This is an acquisition not a merger.

Originally Posted by grim04

So your saying an arbitrator is going to put your number 1 guy right next to our number 1 guy even though VA wasn't even an idea when our number 1 guy was hired. Ok who's drinking the juice now? You are going to have 3500 ****ed off jetblue guys as opposed to 700 VA guys? Yeah that's going to happen.

Originally Posted by grim04

No we should be protecting all jetblue pilots with fences. I think 5/7 to 1 after august of 2007 is perfectly fair.

Originally Posted by GT4JB96

we are talking about a buyout...not a merger... and yes that matters.

Originally Posted by grim04

All I'm saying is there is a precedent we can use with the arbitrator that is not DOH but a seniority integration starting at there first ever hire in 2007 and go from there. With a fence to protect both sides for at least 5 years. I'm below 2007 so this isn't personal. Our top 1500 guys need protections period. Our 190 guys need protection.

Originally Posted by BunkerF16

Do you really think a guy from VA with top 5% seniority hired in 2007/8 should be slotted in the top 150 at JB? Really?

I get there's going to be hurt feelings over this...there always are....but take emotion of this and look at it objectively......

Originally Posted by grim04

Well most of the guys I've been talking to hired pre 2007 feel like I do. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but there are 1600 guys at JB that will fight anything other than post 2007 integration. No I would not expect integration like that with delta or American or United. Ask yourself this. Would we get it nope no friggin way. We will see how this fight turns out. I will be in it for sure along with the top 1600 guys.