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Old 12-12-2016 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Glayvin
Does anybody know how much our 2016 attrition was (or is - couple weeks to go till 2017 technically)?

Does the union have access to where on the seniority list this attrition is occurring? Anecdotally, it seems that most pilots just quit during new hire training or their first 2 years.

I have flown with captains that have repeatedly told me that their seniority barely moves while they grind away in the left seat. A couple have even said that they are considering bidding back to the right seat because they don't have a good enough QOL in the left.

I did some pretty deep probing and thinking before accepting the offer to come here and discussed the choice with people I know that have been working here for quite a while (2 years, 4.5 years, 6 years, 9 years). Despite what I thought was good mental preparation for the pay cut and move back to the right seat, everything still feels very underwhelming. I didn't get the chance to have that new exciting feeling when I started here and much of the day to day work experience so far reminds me of a previous employer from years ago albeit a little more money but actually less work rules; but at least the crews are more chipper and friendly.

I really do think other pilots here at jetBlue (in addition to myself) are also mulling over the prospects and opportunities available at other carriers and would like to know if anyone that has left jetBlue has regretted it or are happy they left?

I am very grateful for the opportunity to work here and can see why the younger pilots and those with a lighter sampling of experience would feel like they won the lottery. Hell, if it was 2008 all over again and the economy was tanking and nobody was hiring I'd feel like I was in gainful employment heaven. But the industry dynamic has changed quickly and I have a creeping feeling of being underemployed and that experience isn't really something that jetBlue cares about or wants to even pay us for.

Will our soon to be contract and prospects for growth make it worth staying versus leaving for a more lucrative employer? I have heard not to expect more than a 10 to 20% raise and semi decent work rules but am under the impression we'd need more like 40% raises and robust contractual protections to bring us up to our peers at other companies.

After reading what I have typed out I feel as if I am asking the million dollar question that only I can answer for myself for my own situation. Perhaps everyone else here will fine solace in the public reflection of it all.
Truth is, no one knows what a TA will or won't have. And the best part is, if you don't like what's in it, you can always vote no. It's up to you - if you think this group will accept lower than industry standard, then leave now and get some seniority at a new employer. If you think we'll accept nothing less than industry standard, then stick around.
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