Not 15 years for an upgrade... A 747 upgrade. Yeah that's long but if you're hired in December of next year following Atlas hiring 700 pilots to expand it's 767 program then you merge in Southern where there isn't as much expansion and no 747s... You're going to wait for a very long time to see the left seat of a 747. Keep in mind that 6th year Captain pay on the 747 is about $170K a year so most of those guys will retire at Atlas. Movement on the 767 will be much faster as people leave for greener pastures. Right now I'm in the 600s out of 1450 pilots and can't hold the left seat of the 747. Atlas has been open about saying that it wants to be at 2000 pilots next year... Factor in Southern and consider yourself 2250 out of 2250 pilots. There are 436 747 Captain spots at Atlas and consider that the 777 is probably the wave of the future... You may never see it if you're at the end of the Amazon wave.... Yeah... If Atlas is your thing I'd REALLY want to be starting soon.