Originally Posted by CLazarus

Good for you Probe, glad to see you potentially benefiting from your seniority! Wait, I thought the reason our MEC wouldn't consider the VB proposal a couple years back was because it "abrogated seniority". (ab·ro·gate -
repeal or do away with). I asked a new hire commuter FA yesterday about the relative seniority of small FA domicile where he lives and commutes from, he said the junior FA in working domicile is a 2006 hire. Channeling Awax and his army of Straw Men: "No, abrogation means something totally different. It's in the UPA glossary, so you tell me what it means. The UPA is a house of cards, we can't make improvements to it without destroying it....". Sigh.

I'm keenly aware that I may never see any sort of personal benefit whatsoever from a VB system here if one were to actually take root. I'm quite o.k. with that so long as it ultimately provides a better overall QOL for the pilot group while keeping the CO competitive. I really appreciate the thoughtful posts I've read here that express similar sentiments, yeah I'm looking at you Duvie and Old Mako!

I'd like to think that if a poll was taken, most of the lurkers on these forums would agree that one group is clearly being more forthright in its views. VB might not benefit a huge portion of the pilot group, but if it actually works it could certainly benefit a far, far larger pilot cross section than the .01 percent that has recently delivered a Straw-baby (55% of our pilots systemwide commute). Whether DAL's test pans out or is spiked immediately, ALL of their pilots got some extra vacation pay out of the deal, which in Awax's math somehow equates to a concession by all of them. I guess he must be right that their contract is totally different than ours, made with straw or something.

BTW, to further spur my drinking habit, I'd like to start a new game whereby everyone drinks every time someone on these forums warns of unintended consequences or says 'management plays chess and we play checkers'. Seriously though, I'd say our union can actually play a mean game of chess (ref the '85 strike and the downfall of Ferris).

I'd rather not spend a layover commenting on this stuff, but I suppose the biggest skeptics out there are happy to string the thread along... and thus further advertise to occasional lurkers what is going on at DAL and get them thinking "if they can do it then maybe we can too". Wait for it... unintended consequences!! Glug, glug, glug...