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Old 01-15-2017 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
"The system however gave the trip to the junior pilot to facilitate a separate trade with the senior pilot. "

If what you are saying is true then the program logic ran the Jr. Pilot's trade out of seniority in order to accommodate the Senior pilot's trade.

That's still wrong. The logic should be (but wasn't) the Senior pilot's trade couldn't be accomplished because it wasn't available. Then the writer of this thread should have gotten his/her trade in the proper order.

Now if there was a pilot to pilot trade here that should be OK.

It sounds like a senior pilot built the trading logic.

If this is true, being a senior pilot I could look through the trade requests of those Jr. to me and pick a trip I wanted to fly that someone else wanted to trade into another open trip. That's called "cherry picking" the system and in reality is "super" seniority.

In the past senior pilots got seniority trade in the "big pick" (1st trip trading after line completion).

Maybe we can fix this with all the reserve gripes?
100% disagree. The program logic is: Can I run the most senior pilots (Pilot A) trip trade? Sometimes this involves 4-5 other cascading trades, and in this case executed a trade for Pilot C. If yes, it completes the trade. Then it goes on to the next pilot (Pilot B). So then the system moves on. Now Pilot B wanted the same trip as Pilot C, but now that trip is gone because Pilot C got it during Pilot A's trip trade request. Sorry Pilot B, but now that trip is "unavailable". Someone isn't going to get the trade because it's the the trip isn't available. You suggest it should be Pilot A instead of Pilot B? That's an abrogation of seniority.

We have a MUCH more robust trading system now that we are trading amongst each other. Before it was "no coverage" ALL the time. As more and more users come on line and advertise trips, the chances of getting a trade goes up substantially, thanks to the branching you want to eliminate.

Your suggestion that some senior Pilot is going to go through Junior pilots trade requests just to pick out something to block their trade is.... highly suspect. Besides, they can do that all they want and then WHAM, it doesn't matter because someone senior to THEM got a trade executed that killed their deal.

Branching has its downside, and I've been on the receiving end of that several times. But the tradeoff is that it allows a MUCH more robust trip trade system with much higher chances of executing everybody's trade requests. The other option is to go back to straight first come/first serve... which we already have after 11am the day prior. That would be fine with me!!
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