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Old 09-09-2007 | 10:43 PM
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he's on the way out age 62. I wont be there for a while after retirement.

I see; sounds like nepotism rule won’t be a problem for you.

I'm not trying to be rude at all, just looking for advice.

Rude? Not for a second did I think you were rude, if my post implies otherwise, I apologize.

Being from Lousiville, I have met and am friends with many UPS pilots. Their advice I consider requirments.

Now I see where we seem to have a disagreement. To me the only requirements are the ones the company (UPS or FEDEX) impose (I list them below) - nothing more and nothing less. What your friends are talking about are the “competitive minimums,” in other what an average pilot seems to have when hired.

If you are going to use their advice as a “minimum requirement” you are short-changing yourself. Why? - Because your friends as much as they’re trying to help you are not the ones who are going to hire you. The people you need to focus on work in the HR departments of FedEx and UPS. Of course, I think you should listen to your friends and learn from them as much as you can. They failed however to tell you that since UPS staring hiring in November of 2004 there has only been a very short period where the transoceanic experience was a “requirement” - in other words you couldn’t even apply if you didn’t have it. That period lasted one application period only (I think less than 6 months, someone correct me here?) but it’s gone as of a few weeks ago (read requirements below). Therefore, always apply when you meet the minimums, NOT when your friends think you might be competitive.

As far as “Alaska” hiring – true – many new-hires end up there but the majority of them have transoceanic experience from before. So if you decide to take the regional route after all (I’m not suggesting it, just saying – IF) you might not end up in ANC after all.

Either way, good luck to you!

From www.upsjobs.com

UPS FLIGHT OFFICER REQUIREMENTS:


All applicants must possess the following basic qualifications:
Have a minimum of 1500 hours of total fixed-wing pilot time
Have a minimum of 1000 hours pilot in command (PIC) hours in fixed-wing jet and/or fixed-wing multi-engine turboprop
Pilot in Command, per FAR 1.1, means the person who:
Has final authority and responsibility for the operation and safety of the flight;
Has been designated as the pilot in command before or during the flight;
Holds the appropriate category, class, and type rating, if appropriate, for the conduct of the flight
Other requirements include:
Hold a valid passport
Bachelor's degree is preferred.
Recency and type of experience will be considered.
Have authorization to work in the United States
Be at least twenty-one years of age
Note: Please fully complete the application prior to clicking SUBMIT. Updates are not permitted!
BASIC QUALIFICATIONS:
Hold a current FAA First Class Medical Certificate
Hold a current ATP certificate OR hold an ATP written with a commercial pilot airplane multiengine land certificate with instrument certificate
Hold a current flight engineer written or current flight engineer certificate
Hold an FCC restricted radiotelephone operator permit
Minimum of 1500 hours of total fixed-wing pilot time. (UPS will allow military candidates to add a plus (.3) per sortie factor to flight times)
Minimum of 1000 hours pilot in command (PIC) hours in fixed--wing multi-engine turboprop per FAR 1.1. (UPS will allow military candidates to add a plus (.3) per sortie factor to flight times)
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