[QUOTE=ColdWhiskey;2286545]I know there is a lot of frustration. There will be a TA someday. I am of the belief that it will be later, rather than sooner.

It would appear later rather sooner is a common thought but the only thing they really have going for them is the promise of a not too long upgrade time... 3-4 years to get into the left seat isn't bad... problem is we're gonna have what? 2400-2500 pilots for 130 something airplanes? We have almost 1100 right now... there are people that have passed upgrade, some attrition and very few retirements... so to be generous, the next 250 pilots hired will have a shot at upgrade in a reasonable amount of time... that means in a year, everyone hired will be stuck in the right seat for a while... compound that with the fact that everyone else is hiring into a better contract and the pilot "shortage" really hits hard here... they want all those airplanes in the air so they can continue to print money... the only way they're going to attract anyone a year from now is money and work rules... might be sooner than we think