Originally Posted by
Mercyful Fate
Of course there is. However, like any other investment you expect results. Because there is zero guarantee of results, who do so many pro union guys like yourself take such issue with people who want nothing to do with them?
You obviously didn't understand what I'm saying. And how would you? I have my results. There is never a guarantee that any job I have will exist until I retire. That's not the result we pay for. Only management can control that end. And we have had very bad management, especially since Inc took over.
Originally Posted by
gojo
Are you sure? Maybe you could expand and provide solid examples? Because I'm pretty sure by Skywest's history that they know how to run and build a business. Seems to me if they'd put some effort into the Express Jet side they could make it profitable as well. And in regards to the whipsawing post, how can you call it whipsawing when they are not using it for bargaining? It's my understanding they're not even negotiating or trying to improve things on the union side
They are doing what is smart at this point. The past is the past. They can't go back and fix those mistakes. So it makes sense to shutter the side that is losing money and keeping the cheaper labor side.
Originally Posted by
Mercyful Fate
You know the wedge is the Union, and always has been. Pilots on both sides know this, and know as long as there is a union in place, nothing is going anywhere. Kind of like beating a dead horse I suppose.
Hindsight being 20/20, I would probably put money on if OO had to do it all over again, the purchase of ASA and XJet would not have happened. However, that is my opinion only...
The union was not a wedge. It's simple an anti-union stance management took. That's unfortunate but oh well. All other airlines make money with unions, including regionals. So it's definitely not the unions preventing a profitable business. But I agree, if they could do it all over again, they would not have bought either. And I don't lose sleep at night about the hundreds of millions they've sunk into ASA/XJT.