Originally Posted by
mainlineAF
Yea I'm not sure about how it'd work out if duty period 1 flew into calendar day 2.
But you're missing it with your DUB example. You described average calendar day. If you have min calendar day it protects you even better from inefficient trips. You will never credit less than 5(or whatever you bargain) for a calendar day. 6 hour block day 1, 6 hour block day 2, 1 hour block day 3. Average calendar day it pays 15. Min calendar day pays 17.
Of course no company is just going to pay their pilots that way for fun. We would have to negotiate it (like SWA did). I'd be happy with average but it's insulting to the airlines with real contracts to not try and raise the bar.
Your example is correct. So I believe was my DUB example.
We have a "duty period average". DAL and UAL have a "calendar day minimum". We only get 5:11 per duty period they get a minimum of 5:15 (DAL) and 5 (UAL) per calendar day or the value of the trip. Whichever is greater.
International carriers do not pay an additional 5 hours for a 24 hour layover that spans calendar days. They will pay the greater of a five hour minimum per calendar day of the trip or the value of the trip.
For domestic trips that sit around a hotel from 2359 to 0000 they would get an additional five hours but for international trips with trips that span calendar days I don't believe they get five more hours.
Not sure how they would get paid for a 12 hour NRT leg with a 48 hour layover with a 12 hour return leg that spanned 4 days and layed over in NRT from 0000 to 2359 on one of the days.
Maybe someone at DAL can shed some light.
Either way. Minimum calendar day is a huge improvement over our duty period average.