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Old 02-05-2017 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerizbro
man, you guys amaze me.....

Atlas pays $1600 per month while in training, x3 months is $4,800. Then you get your monthly guarantee of $80/hr x 62hrs which is $4,960 for 9 months that's $44, 640. First year is $49,600not including per diem which is probably another 7k.

However after speaking with several line pilots and a check airmen. I know you guys avg. 80hrs of pay per month. So 3 months of training $4,800 plus 9 months at $80hr x 80hrs is $57,600. So first year pay is $62,400 not including per diem and it would be $76,800(again not including per diem) if you didn't have 3 months at training pay.

Year 2 is easily over $100k and you guys still complain

I do not work there. I do not know the environment but stop whining because some other cargo company is paying more than yours. If you're truly that unhappy to be there, to the point of considering yourselves "inmates" why not just leave? Instead you guys come on APC to rant and cry.

No job is perfect, grow up a bit and go to work!
I posted the below last October. Doesn't quite support your ill informed post. BTW, first year guarantee is just 50 hours, if you train on work days, you lose pay, if you take vacation, you lose pay...

Here's my numbers:
2013 (11 months)- $44,171.14 total gross including $7,453.46 above guarantee (zero VX trips)

2014- $72,554.18, $10,587.04 (zero VX)

2015- $106,891.49, $38,510.95 (VX as available)

2016 YTD- $81,969.51, $27,080.95 (ZERO VX since August)

I generally try to bid lines valued at 75-80 hours, thus have cushion of hours above guarantee. Unless they reduce the value of my award. For example, if on reserve and due to start at 0001z, but they assign a trip which reports at 2000z the same day, you've just lost 20 hours of CRT (roughly four hours of pay).
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