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Old 02-11-2017 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
Adler, I will readily agree that the training and standards that the 727 pilots were held to was vastly superior to what was provided / expected out of us in the "little airplane".

However, this is not a pertinent conversation. I never brought up training, proficiency, the capability of a crewmember, or the "size of their cockpit". The points that I made, which would be universal regardless of whether one were to operate a 172 or a 777, were as follows:
Ok, so I'm not trying to say you're wrong, but at least on the 727...

Originally Posted by RyeMex
1. The company expected and required crewmembers to operate aircraft without the rest that is required by Federal law.
Simply did not happen on the Boeing. Duty day limits for Part 121S three-man crew on international flights do not exist, that is an issue with the FAA never assigning any - not with IFL. Rest rules, they say that you are not obligated to answer your phone, you choose to. That is correct, while strange and pretty original, not illegal.

Originally Posted by RyeMex
2. The company, at least on one occasion of which I have first hand experience, coerced a crewmember into flying a trip AFTER the crewmember had already stated, on a recorded line, that they were unfit for duty.
We worked long days, but only maybe twice that I can recall did a crew decide that they were too tired, they went to a hotel mid trip. No harm came to them.

Originally Posted by RyeMex
3. The company actively encouraged / threatened crewmembers to operate aircraft that were made un-airworthy by inoperative equipment or other mechanical defects until the assignment had been completed and the airplane could be repositioned to PTK. One only has to look through any aircraft log and realize that 95% of the discrepancies noted were documented on the leg that ended in PTK, the company's repair station.
How fortunate.
Again, the 727 may have been different than the Falcon, but I thought our maintenance was top notch, especially considering what a complicated old bird she was. When something broke on the road, they would Falcon a mechanic out to fix it. When we were busy at a particular airport like FWA or DFW, they had mechanics in the hotel there ready to go. During peak, they even carry a mechanic on board. Not to mention, always having a FE...
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