Originally Posted by
DC8DRIVER
blinding wit, David.
It's always smart to call your fellow pilots cry babies.
It might be a good idea to rethink those interpersonal skills prior to your upgrade
Readers of this thread are certainly smart enough to have gotten the big picture of the way things are here at Atlas. Dozens of long time posters revealing the harsh reality of our situation, and you, the lone voice, saying that things really aren't all that bad here at Atlas. Oh you you say that bad things have happened to you but you have posted a surprisingly large number of messages belittle others who point out contractual violations. And you say that you want a contract, but you clearly don't have the first idea about how to fight for one. And say that you're a union guy, but you clearly don't understand the big picture of what our methods and goals are (I hope that, one day, you'll see more clearly what our union is trying to accomplish). You say that it's an easy job: No different than any other major airline pilot's job, but the other readers of this thread understand the width and breadth of our operation and appreciate the vast scope of what Atlas pilots do. It is very different.
I think you have made your point and I think that it's clear that it is simply not what the rest of us believe.
Time to give it a rest.
So I am guessing you didn't like the meme?
Look 8, you are taking this WAY too personally. Like I have said before, and I will keep on saying it....if I think it is a gross exaggeration what people post, then I will say so. And I think you and others have needlessly exaggerated your position in an effort to garner support for our mutual cause on an anonymous web forum where the only people that are really listening are prospective candidates. You along with others can easily make your point by proposing open ended questions rather than resort to gross distortions to make your point. As you said, the readers of this thread are smart enough to have the big picture in mind and a grossly exaggerated and distorted picture will most likely be cast aside as an extremists rant rather than taken seriously.
Atlas does have issues and I have agreed with you and others about those issues all along but I don't agree that they are systemic or blatant. If you don't like the way I have categorized Atlas' issues that is fine but don't claim to think you know me or that I don't know the big picture or that I don't know how to fight for a contract. You
don't know me or where I have come from or my trials and tribulations.
Furthermore, when you say, "....the rest of us...." are you saying that you speak for ALL Atlas pilots? Because, there are 1400+ pilots at Atlas that are probably going to have a different perspective of experiences than yours. Perhaps it's your interpersonal skills that need a dust off when you encounter that crew member that doesn't see eye to eye with your position hmmm?
friends?
....i'll buy the first few rounds.
P.S. this forum is just internet banter....let's leave it here. I hope you understand that I vote, don't VX, don't outbase and "all in" is the message that I send out on the line.....but if you whine, i'll call you out on it. LOL.
