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Old 02-26-2017 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TrinityDawn
I have also had 4-5 sick calls in a rolling 12 month period, and haven't heard anything about it. However, other individuals (that may or may not be on the company's radar, justly or unjustly) have had issues.



The real problem here is that our sick time is part of our CBA, and part of our compensation package. EVERYTHING that is part of the CBA has a dollar value, and thus was negotiated. The company agreed to give us this sick time as part of our compensation, at a certain rate, and even agreed to let us cash it out if our long term sick reaches a certain value. The fact that they now want to deny us using that sick time is quite frankly a contract violation and an attempted pay cut. Not to mention of course all the studies that show it is far better for corporations to allow sick employees to go home, recuperate faster, and not get fellow employees sick. The PTO system we had for a while was great, because if treated sick and vacation time as the same bank, which is really how it should be. And finally, there is the issue of safety. Safety is supposed to be our number one concern, but the company is pushing pilots to fly sick. Are YOU at the top of your game while hacking, sniffling, your sinuses clogged, and trying to clear your ears? What if you're stressed about personal issues and not concentrating on the task at hand? It goes all the way back to the IMSAFE acronym we learned as private pilots.







I'm sorry, but I was under the impression that FMLA was unpaid leave. Am I wrong? If he isn't getting paid (losing money from his guarantee) for those FMLA days, then why the hell should the company care what he does on those days? Let alone the fact that leave is protected by Federal law!!! The "flying that he was supposed to be doing" that was covered by other pilots is NO DIFFERENT than a sick call being normally covered by a reserve; it's how our CBA dictates everyone should be paid, and the company agreed to it, so please spare us the belly-aching on that fact. You guys like to repeat these allegations of wrongdoing against Neal, but I have yet to see any evidence. Talk is cheap.


Correct. It is unpaid leave. However the law does allow the employee to elect to use paid leave accrued by the employer if approved and qualifies as an "illness". That is the federal law. Now maybe, just maybe, the corporation should instead get upset with the government and quit harassing the employees?

That's why I sincerely hope NS does get millions in lawsuit settlement. I believe his case is solid unless it gets up to the SCOTUS. Now it becomes a political case and well, you know how Trump is.

FYI for the new Dads. The company will not allow you to use sick time for birth. I've tried, their explanation is because for a birthing you are not considered "sick or ill". They use your vacation time for such an event.


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