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Old 02-28-2017 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue24
You are full of crap. I am not sure who is feeding you this stuff. Mason might be lock step with those two on a few committee appointments, but making a corollary to every issue is an insult and wrong.

On the Aeromexico JV, the likes of Mason, Nestor and Dilbeck have been working on metrics and methodologies for over two years to protect us from flying inside and outside of the JV. Aeromexico is unique in the fact that passengers could flow from South America and Asia thought MEX, not touch the JV's immunized flying, but DAL with a ownership stake gets a financial benefit. These guys realized that from the word go, and have been working the issue. I would say that Mason will be able to give direction on this and do so from a place of knowledge.


The question remains to be seen if the company '"needs" a JV. The have to meet with the association per the PWA but there is nothing that requires them to agree to one. The protection we have in the PWA is for flying that the JV covers (DAL cant drop the level of flying. The issue is the growth flying and we are not protected. It can all go to Aeromexico). The pilot group should want a JV and demand it from the company.

The Korean relationship has been one that has been all over the place. I personally believe DAL is moving towards a JV out of need, especially with the issues in NRT. The horizon on when we would negotiate this is not months, but likely at least a year away. Remember, it took two years for Virgin Atlantic, Aeromexico has been on the plate for three years, and V Australia took about two years from announcement to LOA.

As for Sam and Scott, I doubt they said those worlds. They sound like a concern from parties that want to expand the use of MEMRAT and aren't sure they have the votes.

Mason is a pitbull on the MEC and never tires advocating the issues. This looks like another political drive-by that is thin of facts, but strong on supposition. You constantly made crap up about Nestor and now you are doing it to Mason.
Time will tell..

How much can Virgin grow before we must grow in our share of that killer deal?

As usual your talk focuses where management wants you to lead the line pilots.

The fact is, In my opinion, the current JV language is too restrictive for management. They want more latitude. So you and the gang focus 100% on the protection of growth going forward. To me that is a given. And we deserve a much larger share than we will get. I.e. Virgin.

We need to focus on gains in:

Value of a vacation day, training day and establish a minimum day.

More defined contribution up to 18%.

Lowering medical deductibles to $200 per individual and $400 per family. Cutting medical premiums in half.

What you guys never mention is the fact that our executives are lighting BILLIONS on fire each and every year with stock buy backs.

They need to invest in our air line. Not one more penny wasted on buy backs.

Stock buy backs achieve but one goal. Making our executives richer.

There is no excuse for bankruptcy medical, vacation, min day and training day while they waste billions on buy backs.
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