Well, right now in DC, a whole mess of guys as the company just moved the G line by 50 numbers. Just like that the flying disappeared. And I suspect that the way UA has played musical with the flying that we're not the 'yuuuge' exception that I constantly read about either. I was a line holder when I bid this seat. No more. So, myself and 40 or so other (non new hire whiners who should just quit I suppose) guys. Its not that clear cut, despite what guys fulminate about here on APC. I have been bumped from solid line holder to reserve maggot at least 4 times during my time on the property. Amazingly, and much to the chagrin of some, I haven't quit yet!