To add on to what punkpilot said, if you have your CFII, you should already be really good at flying the instruments. I got nothing against paying your dues, as I already said, if Pinnacle hadn't chose hire those few, they would still be here doing just that.

Why shouldn't they really feel like they should have those jobs? They passed the interview, sim ride, written exam, and ATP written just like everyone else. They made it through 2 months of training like everyone else, will sit in reserve like everyone else, and will eventually hold the right seat like everyone else. They may be flying the aircraft, but the captain has the last word.

Which programs would these be that you speak of?

Your last sentence is almost incomprehensible, but I remember reading the thing about the welder when Skyhigh originally wrote it. I guess if the pilot or cowboy thing dosen't work out for, you can always fall back on that. I don't know what the hell you were trying to get across with the last part, as I already said: I buy into the PFT guys hurting the industry. Or is that just your signature?

This is how it goes: You hear Pinnacle is coming to town, you realize you have low time but figure what the the hell, I'll apply anyway, if they interview me it will be a great experience if not, not a big deal. Turns out they want to interview you, you pass the written, sim ride is no sweat, and the interview went well, great experience all around. Then you get a call several days later. They want you to come fly for them, in fact they tell you you'll be able to have msp as a base (you were born and raised there, and the girlfriend lives there too). You honestly would tell them thanks, but no thanks I don't feel I'm qualified enough? Give me a few hundred more hours in my 172 watching my student shoot approaches, then I'll be right over? Yes or no? If you turn down their offer, they shrug their shoulders and offer the job to the next low time guy on the list.

I'm really happy about you saving the industry and all, but it's those airline pilots who ***** and moan about low timers getting hired that have the ability change things. Tell management or the Union or whoever that your tired of sitting next to guys whose multi is still wet in their log books. Tell them to raise or stick firm to their mins. If I was offered a regional job at 560/50 I'd take it and run.