Originally Posted by
sweetholyjesus
You completely misread my original quote. My point was that under ALPA the regionals have no chance to combine their labor, because ALPA carriers negotiate separately. Now, why does this make sense to ALPA? Because the higher wages of mainline, which are subsidized by lower regional wages, pay a higher amount of dues. So it doesn't actually harm their bottom line. If the regional wages rivaled mainline's, airlines would have to either raise prices or reduce service. Or (more likely) bring more flying back in house, which I think most of us agree would be a good thing.
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Since ALPA is actually subsidizing the cost of regional representation, please tell me how the regionals are subsidizing the majors.
And given the internet poo flinging contests that erupt around here frequently when airlines sign contracts that are (supposedly) harmful to other carriers interests, how long do you think a pilot union would last if said union could impose it's own will on a pilot group?
I'll give you a hint: not very long.
What does the size of the company have to do with it? Why does it matter who owns the routes? Why should ALPA care about these things? They should be more concerned with equally representing the people that pay them dues.
So can you answer the questions or not? Because the answers to those questions actually have meaning, and are actually impacting the things you're going on and on about.
Wrong. That's why I mentioned the actual pay rates that mainline lists for their CRJs versus a regional. I have explained every one of my positions calmly and clearly, so I don't think the keyboard warrior comment is appropriate. Trying to discredit me is not going to make your argument make any more sense.
Ok, so according to their APC profile Delta has rates for 900s in their mainline CBA, but are they actually flying any? Do they have any plans to? The 190s that AA are flying are well above their scope limitations. Are there any regional pilots flying the same type as their mainline counterparts for less money?
Not that the whole discussion really means anything, as it's all semantics, but when you start a discussion with decision makers with statements that belie partial facts you don't do yourself any favors.
As to my keyboard warrior comment, what are you doing outside of APC to actually affect change? What are you doing to actually learn about the system?