Old 03-13-2017 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
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Since ALPA is actually subsidizing the cost of regional representation, please tell me how the regionals are subsidizing the majors.
I've explained this already... Let's just assume it's even true that the regionals cost more to represent than the dues they contribute. That would only be the case because their wages are so low. Why are they so low? Because mainline pilots voted in scope in order to retain/increase their own wages and benefits. If you lower one scale and increase the other, what does ALPA's bank account get in the middle? Balance.

Originally Posted by TallFlyer
And given the internet poo flinging contests that erupt around here frequently when airlines sign contracts that are (supposedly) harmful to other carriers interests, how long do you think a pilot union would last if said union could impose it's own will on a pilot group?

I'll give you a hint: not very long.
So you don't think regional pilots would be happy with the end of whipsawing and under-cutting? They wouldn't be happy with increased leverage and pay? What would be your suggestion then? Stay under the boot of ALPA or...?

Originally Posted by TallFlyer
So can you answer the questions or not? Because the answers to those questions actually have meaning, and are actually impacting the things you're going on and on about.
The answers are obvious. Why don't you explain your own argument? I promise to pay full attention.

Originally Posted by TallFlyer
Ok, so according to their APC profile Delta has rates for 900s in their mainline CBA, but are they actually flying any? Do they have any plans to? The 190s that AA are flying are well above their scope limitations. Are there any regional pilots flying the same type as their mainline counterparts for less money?

Not that the whole discussion really means anything, as it's all semantics, but when you start a discussion with decision makers with statements that belie partial facts you don't do yourself any favors.
Sorry but this is a bit silly. There's a reason Delta isn't flying any 900s, because Endeavor is doing it for cheaper. If Endeavor had the same contract rates that Delta does, do you think the 900s would be at Endeavor? Common sense says no.

Please feel free to show me any of my posts that belie partial facts. Vague, baseless remarks like that don't do you any favors.
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
As to my keyboard warrior comment, what are you doing outside of APC to actually affect change? What are you doing to actually learn about the system?
No joint venture ever began without a discussion...
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