Dave, it sounds like you got hired here but can't leave for whatever reason and so now you don't want to hear all this trash talk about your employer. Maybe you want to pretend that Atlas is not all that bad. That's fine, but don't expect to convince the other 1400+ pilots that things aren't pretty catastrophic here.

And just because you choose to disbelieve what we say, that doesn't mean that what is said here is incorrect. But, you are getting very close to calling us liars and that is putting you in a class of people who are management tools. If you suspect someone has something wrong, help correct them in a constructive way. Don't belittle them. Don't challenge them. Don't be a jerk.

You say that you understand that the company is suing us, that we are underpaid, that we have a crap contract, that other pilots are leaving in large numbers, and yet you are STILL arguing with your fellow pilots about their observations and information. Almost every one of your posts is antagonistic against either the union or other crew members who are trying to warn aspiring Atlas pilots of the perils of this job.

You need to take some time to reflect on why you are so contrary and reevaluate why you end up trying to minimize and refute the reality of our situation.

This thread has been going for a few years now and is a valuable resource for pilots who want the inside story about getting hired and working at Atlas. Your posts so far add nothing constructive to the purpose of this discussion.

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