The ten year statement in terms of seniority needs to be taken with a grain of salt. We didn't hire for what, at least 10 out of those five? You aren't that much further from the bottom (%)than a guy with one year. Sorry.

I think I mentioned the qualifier of fleet. I had talked to a very senior (88) a year or so back that said with all of that seniority on the MD he couldn't get as good of a vacation as on the Z because they didn't publish the 14/14 type trips that the Z can have. OCV fixes that for most people.