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Old 03-23-2017 | 08:22 AM
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tcco94
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Originally Posted by moon
I'm not saying help out MESA. I'm just tired of all these Skywest people thinking they are God's gift to humanity because they work for an underpaid airline. Yes it's competition, and we have a voice in that with where we choose to go. If more people got over the skywest hype and chose airlines that paid better then skywest would have to face the competition and raise their rates and in turn other airlines would raise theirs. Reverse the whipsaw!
Have you looked at the pay beyond year 1? Because Envoy is the one who who is behind, not SKW. Why do you think that is? SKW pilots vote for money beyond the 1st year because it literally makes no sense to give a new hire all the money in the world and treat your 2+ year pilots worse. Also, like said above you just got a pay raise recently as you guys were in the Mesa category of pay per hour. SKW actually raised pay this year, just not for 1st years. Which is brilliant.

And you guys have to remember, the music can stop anytime. Just like economy did in 08. We are not invincible to that. Neither is your flow. That could end any day now. Sounds to me like some here are EXPECTING a 2 yr upgrade/5 yr flow. Once you set expectations (off a recruitment projection???) that's how you start getting upset.

Nobody should be drinking any Kool aid here, just providing cold hard facts. The poster who said Skywest is severely behind and "not competitive" is 100% wrong. You should be rooting for SKW honestly...like you said the more they continue to be successful at hiring the more your airline gives out money. Problem is you'll be past 1 year and right now a lot of airlines don't care about pay past year 1 like they do for new hires. See why raising pay doesn't make sense just for a new hire?
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