Sometimes you just have to do the right thing. If we don't negotiate for it and the company decides not to raise it are we really helping the industry by expecting guys to go from an $80k+ job to a $30k job with with years of experience. They already take a massive seniority hit so why hit them with a huge pay cut too. Yes the company should do it to attract the right talent but we all know they don't give a poop.

The whole dues paying attitude is so backwards. At this level you've paid plenty of dues in your career. We need to stop raising the ladder behind us. Just because most of us had it bad doesn't mean you make those behind us suffer for no good reason other than "I walked 15 miles up hill in the snow so..."

It's also not "leading" delta pays $86 and united $85