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Old 03-25-2017 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
Really? I just did my log book....65% and night and 35% day flying. Welcome to reserve and redeyes only thing in open time. Also, now that I can hold a line, the schedule sodimiser builds many trips with red eyes to day rest to late night flying!!! You are working more on the same day.....just in the dark!



Give me a break everyone, I've flown more at night at AA then I ever did at a regional. So many of our schedules start or end with a redeye, that I've had entire monthly schedules with at least one on each trip. Going from night schedules to day flying over 3-4 days is far worse on the human body then what FEDEX bulids. Far worse.


Yea, really. I'd like to see the percentage of block hours at AA from 0000-0600 and compare it to that of FX. They are a night freight company, we aren't.

You said 65% night? So does that mean the true definition of night, or are you talking true backside of the clock stuff? I'd bet it's the former.

I didn't say AA didn't have any backside of the clock flying. Of course we do. And yes AA flies more at night than a regional. I don't know any regional that flies true international or redeyes.

If you want to avoid backside of the clock stuff you're going to have be be about 50% or better on a group 2 plane. Obviously have to avoid group 3 and 4.

The redeyes are a huge reason why we need average calendar day protection. I wonder if the true redeyes (late departure day one, sit 24 hours, early arrival day 3) go as junior at UA and DL. If they paid 15:30 here I doubt they'd go as junior as they do.
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