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Old 03-31-2017 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 1900luxuryliner
The problem is, if you are not Management (which I find very hard to believe), your sentiments echo sentiments I have heard from our management! Literally, word for word! You brought up the idea of peers; that we will never achieve more than our peers. To be clear, I believe our peers are every US carrier that operates the A320 series of aircraft. Period! What we do, as pilots, is what United does, is what Delta does, is what every US carrier does in an A320 series.

Management would like you to believe that only the lowest paid carriers are our "peers". That we are some sort of "lower tier" of pilot, based on our current wages. How convenient, and how insulting! Concessions were taken in attempts to keep the company alive (right or wrong), and now they denigrate us based on our wages!

The truth is, most of the lower paid carriers are lower paid, because they are a contract cycle, or even two contract cycles behind the Legacy carriers. Most are actively negotiating better contracts as we speak. Their current pay scales are extremely outdated, and, in many cases, were modeled after prevailing LEGACY CARRIER wages who were in a CONCESSIONARY and BANKRUPTCY environment, at the time. The Legacies have since begun to dig themselves out of the bankruptcy-era, but many other carriers, including Frontier, are still working on it.

This is not a concessionary or bankruptcy environment. We should not be modeling our wages on bankruptcy-era wages of more than a decade ago, which is exactly what we would be doing if we achieved nothing better than (what our management considers) our "peers", who, themselves, are trying to dig themselves out of bankruptcy-era wages.
^^^^^^ Amen!!! ^^^^^^

SWA used to have the highest paid 737 pilots, who at the time, was the low cost airline.

There was a period of time during my time at F9 (I believe, someone correct me if I am wrong) that Frontier was the highest paid A320 operator in the US (granted, many of the other A320 operators were working under a bankruptcy concession, and Frontier had not yet entered bankruptcy).

Do not let management, or the A319 types we have at Frontier, convince you that you are a 'low-tier' pilot, and your services are worth less than other A320 or 737 operators.

As Southwest pilots proved for so many years, low cost airline does not have to equate to low paid pilot.
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